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ICQ SUCKS
Posted: 23 Feb 2005 22:37
by EkynoX
Well looks like ICQ has somehow managed to lose my contact list again. It has to be the worst chat program around. Gammo get msn otherwise I'm never talking to you again lol. MSN's never fucked with me. DIE AOL DIE
Posted: 24 Feb 2005 00:14
by derro
eky
this is microsoft were talking about here....
every chat program i have installed has some sort of check for updates, u can turn this off in all of them..
after i put msn ont he other day i was getting glitches in my game...hmmmm
out of icq, trillian and msn, out of those three which one have u tried to install on a different partition, and then later after a reformat of windows, which one will run if u go straight to the original directory of the partition u installed to and run it...... trillian all the way baby
anything that u can run without a regisrty enrty, dll files, shit, and extra smelly shit is good in my books..
trillian owns
ps. oh it appears to be the icq network is down anyways, oh well i still got half of you on msn contacts..... on "trillian"....

Posted: 24 Feb 2005 05:49
by gämmö
I dont think I'm going to install anymore spyware from any of those companys.
We got us a chat room right here on this here webpage... wann talk to me.. go there....
cause i doubt i will be using ICQ again.. and hell freezes over brfore I go for adware trillian or spyware mns
ICQ while it lasted was the best one.... but it looks liie it has gone down the the road of money first seervice later..... as in it's got more adds then a commercial TV station....
Ps; Commercial TV stations are the greates evil on this planet... and we should ALL actively seek to destroy their powwer base, by any means neccessary.

Posted: 24 Feb 2005 16:44
by EkynoX
Gammo I have fucking had it with your bullshit. Trillian has NO adware in it. MSN has NO spyware. For fucks sake man, get your facts right! You're using a Microsoft product right now, Windows. So don't give me any of that anti-Microsoft bullshit. Microsoft would NOT benefit at all from including spyware in MSN. It would only make them look worse as it would slow down Windows and Internet Explorer. Why is MSN by far the most popular chat client around? Because it is the fastest, it DOESNT need external dlls or registry entries, and it works.
Trillian is a great prog derro, I'd have to agree. I use it for ICQ anyways (the ICQ servers are the causes of my problems). Its kinda in a different class though, because it's the best parts of msn and icq put together.
Posted: 24 Feb 2005 17:51
by gämmö
Posted: 24 Feb 2005 18:50
by EkynoX
Umm.. That program disables CUSTOM features of XP which are OFF by default. hear that? OFF by DEFAULT.
Contrary to what this stupid website (obviously written by someone who has no knowledge of the inner workings of WindowsXP) says, the automatic update service does not run unless you have asked for automatic updates.
And ok say you were running automatic updates. What's Microsoft gonna collect about you? Most probably system specifications to decide what drivers and updates to apply to your system. You think they'd care what sites you visit? What games you have. Fuck no! Microsoft don't need to sell information to make money.
"Nobody knows what's possible to transfer from your computer to the connected servers via these services."
Bullshit. Anyone with a packet sniffer can see exactly what is being tranferred from their machine and to what IP.
"I don't know what this service transfers from my machine to other machines on the internet, especially the MS ones."
Umm so basicly, you're telling us you have no clue why you are disabling these services? Hmm I smell a case of paranoia.
If you have any doubts, read the XP license agreement. It does NOT collect any information about you whatsoever unless you tell it to. Even then the information is nothing personal.
Microsoft would NEVER take such a huge gamble as to collect personal information of users without their knowledge. That'd be corperate suicide for a company with their status.
Don't listen to all the propaganda spread by idiots who know nothing of Windows and how it works.
Next time you feel like talking out of your ass, make sure you know what you're up against.
Posted: 24 Feb 2005 19:07
by gämmö
lol
When I upgraded to Xp service pack 2 , on reboot, I find a firewall installed, auto updates turned on, msn instaled and asking me to make an account?
Just wondering... why I had to install that anti shit.. to turn all that shit off.... i couont figure it out, since i had the auto thing turned off and the msn thing uninstalled of my system before the upgrade...
maybe it was my copy of Xp not sure.. but I found all that shit turned on, my homepage reset to point to msn... and a few other things....
2k, had the same thing when he upgraded... found a host of Microsoft shit running in the background....
that anti tingy has turned it all of.. and Im happy wiht it all...
no beef with microsoft.. I jsut like to run my OS the way i like it
lol
Posted: 24 Feb 2005 19:38
by EkynoX
The OS they made for you!?!?!?
MSN never sets itself as the home page unless you tick the box when installing MSN. Firewall is on by default yes, to protect your system from worms. Thats GOOD. Autoupdates are NEVER on automatiaclly. The reporting system that tells you that they are available was just enabled when you install service pack 2.
I am warning you now that by turning off auto update, your system will never ever get updated and you will be bombared with any new worms which exploit Windows in the future. In short, leave it on, or you are a fucking idiot.
I have HAD FUCKING ENOUGH of talking to people who don't use common sense. You're a good guy gammo, but you do idiotic things like this then have the nerve to complain when a worm infiltrates your system!? This is the most ignorant thing I've ever heard you say.
I wondered why you get so much spyware and worms and stuff. Now I realize why! You've disabled every defense Windows has against attack.
Posted: 24 Feb 2005 19:51
by derro
will one of you write a book or something...
Posted: 24 Feb 2005 20:17
by EkynoX
Shotgun
Posted: 24 Feb 2005 20:55
by kAoS-Rage
you can turn all your updates off on programs and update your shit every month or so that way you got less things running and poping up whan your in the game.

Posted: 24 Feb 2005 20:55
by gämmö
Only spyware I get is wen i visit naughty sites...
You are flying off at the mouth and you are assuming a hell of a lot.
I have 3 PCS.. this one is the net surfing one.. I have OTHER firewalls and ANTI spyware and virus and shit running on it..... it gets infected no matter wat... cause naughty sites are very clever....
My second machine is the backbone, its the one were the cable is hooked up to.. its never turned off and it RUNS NO FIREWALLS OR ANYThing.. but it also never ever gets used for antyhignt but to turn the modem on.. and I use the HDD for storage.. In other words, it has NO monitor.. its jsut turned on... dats it... If I need to configure it, I need to plug a monitor into it... uderswise, everything that has to run on it runs off the Startup menu floder, if ever i restart it....
My thirds machine is my UT one
is ONLY for UT.. nothing else.. it has ZERO of everyting installed it just has UT.... no nothing just UT (Ohh and teamspeak) , no spyware utilities nothing, they sap bandwith, so I dont use them on my UT machine, my ping is proof of that.
guess wat?
the two running naked in the wind, NEVER get anything wrong with them.... no a fucking thing
ONLY my surfing one gets hammered.. it rips throught anything I set up to stop it....
my point?
I do not have anythign on two of my machines and they never get hit with anything, because I never use them for anything except wat they are for... I have firewalls and shit setup on my surfing PC and it gets hammered to no end...
If my UT machine suffers bad ping ingame, its cause my surfing one has ujust been hit with another crapware shit... and ususllay my ping is resolved by turning it off or scanning the surfing one....
Recently i got hammered real bad, by some self installing fucking dialer that would disconnect the surfing one form the network, so as to try and use a dial modem dat does not exist, so in effect.. that changes IP's on my local network effecting all 3 of my machines...
I fixed it, but reformating and reinstalling a ghost image....on my surfing PC... all done in uder 1.30 hours.... ( I like to reformat,, kills it all dead no second guesses)
and i still refuse to use MS inbuilt watever... lol
no need to get so cocky and insult me eky.. im not calling you an idiot for having a different point of view, or to be more precise a different experience/setup or way of doing things......
lol u need derros chill pills...
=]
Posted: 24 Feb 2005 21:17
by EkynoX
/me points at his earlier post about how running an unpatched IE will open it up to all sorts of exploits.
:(
Posted: 24 Feb 2005 21:55
by kAoS-sirro
http://www.mozilla.org/
that thingie there instead of ie gets probly 1/10 the "norty things coming through"
im sort of with gammo and sort of with ekky..
i run 1 linux box with a firewall to serve the 8 pc's im tha house ......linux box is impervious to all shit.cant ping me cant do shit.it dont even giv u an access denied just nothin.
but its like gamms server no monitor cept for the kvm
surfing machines get well rooted and often!
ghost and format..
so what do u do.......wait for linux to get up to speed with windows at gaming then drop windows like the fat hag that it is!!!----- linux

windows
Posted: 24 Feb 2005 22:07
by EkynoX
Removed post coz it ticked derro off
