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Star Wars Episode 3 give it to me baby ahu ahu !

Yes we will all be consumed by the Darkside

It's Walt Disney for n00bs.

George Lucas somewere along the line realised, that you don't have to make a movie, you just have to make a continuation of a franchise.

To date since 1977:

All the StartWars movies combined have made:

3.5 Billion US dollars.

All the merchandise for all the movies since then has made:

10.5 billion US dollars.

When you are looking at those serious money figures, you suddenly realise, you don't even need a script, let alone a movie studio. You just make a movie on blue screens and have a couple hundred Korean geeks animate the rest for you...

Ta da! Another billion dollars plus thank you very much....

And to think that the original startwars, was ripped from the legandary Japanase director Akira Kuwasawa, and his 7 Samari epic.

well i am with u guys . . . it will rox

ditto, u ever got anything not negative to say?

I agree that the acting is poor. but I dont care if its all CGI. No way do i care, otherwise i wouldn't be playing UT now would i?

It's Walt Disney for n00bs

Lets not lose sight of the fact that George Lucas made the Star WaRS films essentially for Kids.

They were never intended to be hi-brow shakespearian drama.



Oh and i think you mean Akira Kurosawa

Another of his major influenses came from Flash Gordon btw.............

Flash is my hero . . i helped him conquer the evil emperor Meng.
those were the days!

MMM i wonder what/who influenced the Wachowski Brothers' when they made the MATRIX?

Star Wars v The Matrix
I: Departure
The call to adventure Princess Leia's message "Follow the white rabbit"
Refusal of the call Must help with the harvest Neo won't climb out window
Supernatural aid Obi-wan rescues Luke from sandpeople Trinity extracts the "bug" from Neo
Crossing the first threshold Escaping Tatooine Agents capture Neo
The belly of the whale Trash compactor Torture room
II: Initiation
The road of trials Lightsaber practice Sparring with Morpheus
The meeting with the goddess Princess Leia Trinity
Temptation away from the true path1 Luke is tempted by the Dark Side Cypher (the failed messiah) is tempted by the world of comfortable illusions
Atonement with the Father Darth and Luke reconcile Neo rescues and comes to agree (that he's The One) with his father-figure, Morpheus
Apotheosis (becoming god-like) Luke becomes a Jedi Neo becomes The One
The ultimate boon Death Star destroyed Humanity's salvation now within reach
III: Return
Refusal of the return "Luke, come on!" Luke wants to stay to avenge Obi-Wan Neo fights agent instead of running
The magic flight Millennium Falcon "Jacking in"
Rescue Han saves Luke from Darth Trinity saves Neo from agents
Crossing the return threshold Millennium Falcon destroys pursuing TIE fighters Neo fights agent Smith.
Victory ceremony Neo's declares victory over machines in final phone call
Freedom to live Rebellion is victorious over Empire Humans are victorious over machines
Common Mythic Elements
Two Worlds (mundane and special) Planetside vs. The Death Star Reality vs. The Matrix
The Mentor Obi-Wan Kenobi Morpheus
The Oracle Yoda The Oracle
The Prophecy Luke will overthrow the Emperor Morpheus will find (and Trinity will fall for) "The One"
Failed Hero Biggs In an early version of the script, Morpheus once believed that Cypher was "The One"
Wearing
Enemy's Skin Luke and Han wear stormtrooper outfits Neo jumps into agent's skin
Shapeshifter (the Hero isn't sure if he can trust this character) Han Solo Cypher

Chasing a lone animal into the enchanted wood (and the animal gets away) The Millennium Falcon follows a lone TIE fighter into range of the Death Star Neo "follows the white rabbit" to the nightclub where he meets Trinity

yo disko.... you have waay too much free time

Its not that he has free time, The Force is Strong in him

MMM i wonder what/who influenced the Wachowski Brothers' when they made the MATRIX?

Star Wars (Wich in turn as Ditto points out is a carbon copy of Akira Kurosawa's 1954 classic Seven Samurai, wich happens to be one of my all time fav films.. awersome.. cinema at it's best)

Ghost in The Shell (<<----MAIN influence bar none, there are so many ideas and scenes, [The whole rooftop chase scene in the beginning] completly ripped from it.. saving Grace the wazkko bros.. openly cite it as a main influence.. I mean.. they can escape it can they....)

Dark City (<<--Nearly 95% of the Matrix is modelled around that movie, the one of the only difference is mainly the idea of the matrix as oppossed to Dark City's "Sleep" idea. Dynamics of the film is almost identical as is nearly all the cinematography, tone, atmospherics, set's, wardrobe, I kid you not, wath both movies Dark City first then immediatly wacth the Matrix... they are so similar it's scary)

Fist Of Legend (Bruce Lee's Fist of Fury remake starring Jet Li, serves as the blue print for all the action sequences)

Stalker (Ideas of a power that turns your dreams into reality is interwoven in the Matrix, as in what you choose or dream to believe may not be what you get.... Steve Sodenrebourgh also used this in his George Clooney star vehicle "Solaris", wich in turn was a remake of a film by the Russian director, Andrei Tarkovsky, as an attempt to make Stalker more accesable and easily definable,(Tarkovsky also wrote and directed Stalker) Tarkovsky remade Stalker again as "The Sacrifice" but gave it an autobiographical spin, basing the structure of events around his turbulant life and it's problably one of his better films, utterly, ackingly beutifull to look at, complex and a mind expanding experience, it was his last film)

Metropolis (Fritz Lang,s devastating masterwork, an incredible film made in the 1930's... absolutely mind bending masterpiece, second to none... serves as a major catalyst for the Matrix... the whole idea of an industrialized society and the price it pays for it's comforts, in exchange for the human spirit)

The point is; there is very little ORIGINALATY in Hollywood, the propaganda machine is creates would have you believe that ONLY Hollywwood makes films, that is NOT the fucking case, Hollywwod are motherfucking bucthers and thiefs of the highest degree.

In hollywood Orson Wells, was ONE of the ONLY true orginal geniuses of film, hardly a film goes past (from Hollywwod), that does NOT draw something from the work of Orson Wells... just rent out Citizen Kane.. and tell me I'm wrong.

Of course they have been many great films by Hollywood, not saying that, what Im saying that out of 100, only one is truly original.. and they usally come in time spans of decades, (Raging Bull from the 80's, The Conversation from the 70's, etc.... you get the picture... personal taste has nothing to do with quality.....

The Matrix at best is hackered down, and dummbed up for the American audience that by and large refuse anything cerebral.... the whole concept of the ORACLE, was forced of the Wazkocky bros by Warner, cause they felt the film was too.. high brow.... too much thinking... can we please have an ideological dumb meter.. ta.....

Now, I like the Matrix a LOT, I think it's a dead set kick arse fiml, but it's NOT a great film... it has inovative (To a degree, wacth Ghost in the Shell) FX, but that don't make the movie... it's pretty dumb..... it could of been utterly great, maybe even a master work, has it been made for the Arthouse circuit and not cost 80 million to make...

Interesting point is... the next two matrix films... many critics site the fact, that the wazkocky bros.. ran out of ideas cause none of their main influences had sequels.. lolol... i would agree with that.. lololol

Ohhh and I LOVE Starwars... ffs.. I saw it wen i was 11 years old at my local small town cinema... and it took me days to pick up my jaw... it left impressions on me that i will never forget.... that and Mad Max... ffs.. Max has a lot to answer for in my twisted little mind... grrrrr....

I saw Starwars whan i was 9 or so on the big screen it blow my mind that movie was so leet the was nothing at that time that came close to it and years after.
My dad liked it so much he took my brother and me to see it about 3 times lol.

yeah i was about 10 when i first saw STAR WARS (on VHS Video)and ive watched it at least 50 times.........

STAR WARS and TRON effected me both as a kid.........TRON kinda blew my mind!

cant remember how old i was when stars wars came out . . . but i suspect i was a bit older than 9 or 10 *cough* . . . i definitely remember Tron but i was much older then too . . can sumone remind what year it was?